fighting styles,that seem boring but effective

[deamondesign]

Hi guys if been watching UFC 117
And something has been irritating me now for while now
The lay and pray style of fighting ......the grind out for victory style
Or I like to call it the fight not to lose style ....
This style has been getting more popular the last couple of UFC’s
And don’t get me wrong with the cutting that’s been going on in the UFC a win is a win
I understand the fighters but its not the most popular style to watch
People tend to get more irritated , even true mma fans are starting to get agitated
And with all due respect Chael Sonnon fought hard but it was the same grind and lay on your opponent..... his strikes from the ground where not even that effective
At the end off the fight Anderson was still clean and Chael’s face was jacked up
There are more fighters mainly wrestlers who fight this was Gray Maynard ,Jon Fitch and now even Rashad Evans is adapting to this style ..
The mainstream fans hate this and it’s not really popular ,Jon Fitch for example who has one of the best records in the UFC but is the most boring fighter to look at
He does not put buts in the seats .... and that’s evident cause he only gets noticed when fighting a headliner type of fighter like Thiago Alves for example who’s record does not even resemble Fitch his almost perfect record
Its a win I know but still I hope more Dynamic fights will be in the future

[blue]

That style makes me happy. It always has. I have been watching the UFC since the original Pay Per View of UFC 1 and that is how the legend was made. I am very happy when I am watching a ground game. I love it. I also enjoy a good slugfest. My favorite fighter of this era is Forrest because he goes balls out even when he KTFO.

But there is nothing more suspenseful and interesting to me then when an MMA fighter goes to the ground. I think that Boxing has given fans a sense of "holding is not fighting". In MMA, Laying down does not mean that they not fighting.....look at what happened. Yes they kept going to the ground but Chael was kicking his ass (and resting a bit), but ultimately it was the ground game that ended that fight.

You could see Anderson recording in his mind what Chael was doing when he went to the ground. You could see Anderson waiting for that.

You said that this "style has been getting more popular". I disagree. The invention of this sport was built on the foundation of BBJ and ground game. That is why this sport was invented. The Gracies made the UFC to show that no one could hang with a BJJ practitioner. That's why they made the UFC.

I don't mean any disrespect, but I seriously think for people like you that want boxing or kickboxing, you might go try watching those sports.

MMA brings all disciplines together, not just the standing ones. You should either educate yourself so that you can be able to enjoy MIXED martial arts or stop frustrating yourself and realize that you only want boxing.

[dfdmike]

there's a difference between lay and pray and what sonnen did. lay and pray is just that, minimal to no striking, just staying in top position. also, sonnen didn't really hit anderson on the nose, lip, or eye much so little visible damage was done. you can't just punch yourself out like carwin did and sonnen needed to remember he was against a BJJ black belt and possibly the best/smartest fighter in the world.

i understand your fitch statement. i don't mind it. he is constantly advancing positions and looking for things to possibly finish. he does not do much ground n pound though.

also, blue, he is saying more popular as in more common. this is true. ever since the start of the UFC wrestling has slowly become the stronger ground base than BJJ, not always, but it is definitely growing.

i just like exciting fights. i like ground wars and stand up wars, etc. i don't like the way randy won against vera, that clinch style bores me. i also don't like true lay'n'pray. guys taking opponents down, staying in guard, and not working to strike or advance. i don't like stand up fights that stay in that "feeling out" process the whole time. but those are all no brainers. nobody likes that much. but you are being completely ridiculous if you think anderson did more damage than sonnen in all. trying to stay in good tact, silva will not bruise the way sonnen does due to their ethnicity. plus cutting and swelling are often genetics.

[blue]

Ya I agree with your Randy comment, Mike. That is a perfect example. Randy didn't take him down much, if at all (I don't remember). All I remember in that fight is how Randy just kept putting up against the fence and holding on to him.

He probably did pull him down and that's probably why you mentioned it but Randy equally sucked the life out of that fight on his feet.

I just wish people would understand BJJ more. I even saw a fight this weekend when the Ref totally screwed up a call because he didn't like the ground game. The commentators were talking about how stupid the Ref was for not understanding the ground game. I just wish more fans and refs and commentators understood ground game more.

[Jennifer]

I personally enjoy when a fight is completely mixed. The kind where you never know what to expect of either opponent. I really hate predictablilty. I don't want to be bored during a fight either but I'm sure Randy knew he had a better chance of winning if he kept him close so I guess I can understand why he chose to do it that way. I think Fitch tries really hard to be exciting and keep things moving but I do agree he is not much of a draw as far as the fans go. Of course there are alot of people that call themselves fans but all they really want is a beer and a boxing match for the most part. At least a lot of the ones that I have come across do. I have no patience (or beers) for those people.

[blue]

What I love....

www.fightlinker.com/we-are-all-one

This was a great video and displays a widely under appreciated part of MMA. It's awesome.